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Re: What IDE are you using?
Date: Fri Oct 28 2005 - 00:41:31 CEST
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> No, I don't refuse to explore them. They're there; they work OK. But
> HTML still isn't as good as Windows help files.
Really? How so? Tell me when you need to research some random odd topic
do you use Google or do you use some sort of all inclusive Windows help
file?
(Reminds me of the adage: When all you have is a hammer then every
problem looks like a nail!)
>>>>> Once you have the hang of it, Windows help files are very easy to
>>>>> create!
>>>>
>>>> Yeah then try browsing that Windows help file on your Linux
>>>> workstation...
>>>
>>> So? I don't use Linux workstations. Windows workstations hooked to
>>> a Linux server.
>>
>> Typical Windows Tunnel Vision. Granted *you* use Windows. But not
>> everybody does! And you take the attitude of screw anybody else but me.
>
> See, that's the difference between you and me.
>
> I'm telling you HOW I WORK AND WHAT I USE. Unlike you, I AM NOT
> TELLING YOU WHAT TO USE!
I'm telling you how to play nice with others. If all you ever do is
create code in isolation and never in a group use any damn thing you
want. But when you have the attitude of "this is how I work - works for
me - and who gives a rat's ass about my coworker who is working on the
same app, needs the same documentation but doesn't use Windows" then I
have a problem with it.
> You keep telling me I should be using IDE's, HTML help files, etc.
> Wrong, wrong, wrong!
Yes, wrong, wrong, wrong as in *you are wrong!!!* I didn't tell you do
use an IDE. I'm the guy saying IDEs are not that good. Remember?
> I use what is best for me and on my projects.
Then you must work in isolation. But if you want to work with others you
should at least show a little sensitivity to the fact that they have
different requirements, needs and desires and you should strive to use
technologies that benefit all equally.
> No, it's not "Windows tunnel vision". It's what *I* use. You use
> whatever you want.
Of course it's a Windows tunnel vision issue. You have be seduced by
"It's my PC and I do what I want with it - others be damned". Hey I have
no problem with that. Just that you might as well unplug from the
network and go off to your corner with your machine and code your
projects. Most of the rest of us want to participate in jointly
developed, collaborative work. As such we need common ground not "you do
it your way and I'll do it mine" (That is unless you can assure that
both ways will work by using some common standard...)
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
<title></title>
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Jerry Stuckle wrote:<br>
<blockquote cite="midiJmdnXCIPY90pPzeRVn-pA@comcast.com" type="cite">No,
I don't refuse to explore them. They're there; they work OK. But HTML
still isn't as good as Windows help files.
<br>
</blockquote>
Really? How so? Tell me when you need to research some random odd topic
do you use Google or do you use some sort of all inclusive Windows help
file?<br>
<br>
(Reminds me of the adage: When all you have is a hammer then every
problem looks like a nail!)<br>
<blockquote cite="midiJmdnXCIPY90pPzeRVn-pA@comcast.com" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">Once you have the hang of it, Windows
help files are very easy to create!
<br>
</blockquote>
Yeah then try browsing that Windows help file on your Linux
workstation...
<br>
</blockquote>
So? I don't use Linux workstations. Windows workstations hooked to a
Linux server.
<br>
</blockquote>
Typical Windows Tunnel Vision. Granted *you* use Windows. But not
everybody does! And you take the attitude of screw anybody else but me.
<br>
</blockquote>
See, that's the difference between you and me.
<br>
<br>
I'm telling you HOW I WORK AND WHAT I USE. Unlike you, I AM NOT
TELLING YOU WHAT TO USE!
<br>
</blockquote>
I'm telling you how to play nice with others. If all you ever do is
create code in isolation and never in a group use any damn thing you
want. But when you have the attitude of "this is how I work - works for
me - and who gives a rat's ass about my coworker who is working on the
same app, needs the same documentation but doesn't use Windows" then I
have a problem with it.<br>
<blockquote cite="midiJmdnXCIPY90pPzeRVn-pA@comcast.com" type="cite">You
keep telling me I should be using IDE's, HTML help files, etc. Wrong,
wrong, wrong! </blockquote>
Yes, wrong, wrong, wrong as in <b>you are wrong!!!</b> I didn't tell
you do use an IDE. I'm the guy saying IDEs are not that good. Remember?<br>
<blockquote cite="midiJmdnXCIPY90pPzeRVn-pA@comcast.com" type="cite">I
use what is best for me and on my projects.
<br>
</blockquote>
Then you must work in isolation. But if you want to work with others
you should at least show a little sensitivity to the fact that they
have different requirements, needs and desires and you should strive to
use technologies that benefit all equally.<br>
<blockquote cite="midiJmdnXCIPY90pPzeRVn-pA@comcast.com" type="cite">No,
it's not "Windows tunnel vision". It's what *I* use. You use whatever
you want.
<br>
</blockquote>
Of course it's a Windows tunnel vision issue. You have be seduced by
"It's my PC and I do what I want with it - others be damned". Hey I
have no problem with that. Just that you might as well unplug from the
network and go off to your corner with your machine and code your
projects. Most of the rest of us want to participate in jointly
developed, collaborative work. As such we need common ground not "you
do it your way and I'll do it mine" (That is unless you can assure that
both ways will work by using some common standard...)<br>
<br>
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Received on Mon Nov 21 02:51:37 2005