Re: defeating firewalls made easy

itoii 3uvu wrote:

>
> lol . . well i thought we were havin some fun here . . .

Me too. it seems the only one who seem to take it lightly was Mr. *M*. As
for a couple of the others????????

>
> anyway what initially appeared to be a software issue apparently turns out
> to be a people issue. but the problem does not lessen simply because human
> fault defeats the firewall as opposed to software fault.
>
> the perfect firewall exists, aka the scissors to the internet and network
> connection wire.
>
> but if the purpose of the internet = liberal exchange of information, then
>
> if the customer and the contractor (service or goods supplier) cannot
> exchange such information via e-mail attachment; and
>
> if the customer and the contractor cannot advertise each other's products
> with cd-roms,
>
> then perhaps the fax machine and pencil and paper resumes its prior
> import; and the firewall goes by the way of the buggy whip, save for a
> select few individuals willing to invest large amounts of time and money
> to develop firewalls that block much of the information business needs to
> prosper.

FW(s) are a needed solution more so with MS O/S(s) than others. But
nevertheless, they are needed for the others too in todays environment. I
don't see FW(s) going away anytime soon, may be never.
PFW(s) or otherwise.

>
> and as for microsoft . . . . even assuming all of the criticism against
> the dominant player is correct, the average computer consumer, including
> business, appears unwilling to abandon microsoft products. And when a
> business is trying to attract customers, insisting that the prospective
> customer redesign its computer platforms to accomodate the security
> conscious seller of goods and services, that sounds like a recipe for lost
> customers.
>
Well they do know how to make things user friendly and there is nothing
wrong with that.

> to me anyhow, the big ticket issue is not whether the generally
> sophisticated participants on this bulletin board can author and // or use
> a robust firewall, but rather whether the average and unsophisticated
> consumers of computers can exchange documents via e-mail attachment; and
> can advertise with each other via cd-rom, without having the company or
> the individual computer user's propietary and financial data immediately
> placed at risk of loss.

I agree with you on this.
>
> imho, the future of firewalls lies not so much with expert usage, but
> rather whether a user friendly security suite of products can be assembled
> that allows the liberal and safe electronic exchange of information aka
> e-mail attachments.

I guess the developers will do the best that they can with the end-user
products O/S(s) and security products.

But keep in mind that if there is a Human element in the equation, then it's
questionable to say the least.

Hey if there were creatures from another planet doing the programming, there
is a strong possibility things would be a lot better. I guess we had better
get out there soon and find them. ;-)

Duane :)

 
Received on Thu Sep 29 19:53:27 2005