Re: guidance sought

On 3-Apr-2006, Sebastian Gottschalk <seppi@seppig.de> wrote:

> > Not everyone can afford a
> > personal computer security expert to sit and watch over their machine,
>
> Then they should not use the computer on the interwab.
>

Damn, what an elitist attitude, are you also in favor of neutering people
if their IQ is below a certain point? Or just euthanize 'em and be done?
This is the kind of attitude that I am talking about, you do not seem to
want to actually help people, just tell them how wrong they are, there is
a name/word for your kind of usenet poster, and that word is indeed troll.

> > I am not saying
> > these are 100% bullet proof, which is what you and VB seem to
> > 'require',
> > but they are better than nothing.
>
> They're even worse than nothing.

In _your_ mind. Take off that aluminum foil hat for awhile and let the
sun shine through.

>
> >>> Then why don't you just advise people to use Kerio?
> >> Hm... it's still worse than no PFW at all?
> >
> > Taking a quote from VB himself - this is just untrue.
>
> According to what VB said

And this means that it is scripture? Does he get a tithe from you too?

> a PFW usually doesn't improve the time until
> first infection by any serious means.

Simply false.

<snippage>
>
> The point is that users are obviously too stupid for even choosing a
> security measure. How should they ever achieve actual security?
>

Again with the attitude. Why don't you and VB just move to some remote
island somewhere and you can set up your own net, without all the other
'stupid' people in the world. You certainly are not helping. If all you
can do is naysay, then the correct response to you would be stfu!

<more snippage>
> There is no indication that PFWs do help in any way.

And, once again, in your own mind this may be the 'truth', but for the
rest of us 'stupid' people, that don't have the inclination, knowledge, or
time, to write our own operating systems, PFWs can and do help block
unrequested incoming packets.
Now, I have spent far too much time 'debating' this with you two. Further
postings in this thread by either you VB will get the 'correct' response I
mentioned above, and nothing else.
HAND

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