Re: News Release

"Rod Engelsman" <rod.engelsman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8Zy0g.36$Jn.123001@news.sisna.com...
> Cliff wrote:
>> "Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message
>> news:444221bd@news.uni-ulm.de...
>>> Cliff <whidbey.us@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Comparing Iraq to Germany and Japan after the second world war shows
>>>> the
>>>> reality of retructuring a country after war.
>>> Sorry, this is nonsense. You cannot compare at all.
>>
>> Sure you can....I just did. It is very comparable. Many of the same
>> issues are present in both post WW2 and post GW2. The difference is
>> striking. How many years was it before German citizens voted on their new
>> constitution after WW2? How many years was it before the infrastructure
>> in Germany was rebuilt after WW2? How many years was it before the last
>> holdouts of the German army were routed? How many years was it before the
>> war criminals were brought to justice?
>>
>>
>> nd it interesting that not one single officer has yet to be punished.
>>>>> It's all low-level grunts. Shit rolls downhill apparently.
>>>> Do you have evidence that they were complicit in torture?
>>> Who is responsible for the men if the officers are not?
>>
>> In the first place Rumsfeld is not an officer, he is not even in the
>> military. He is the secretary of defence which is a civilian position
>> that has oversight over the military. The field commanders run the war
>> not the Sec Def.
>
> So how are giving him all this credit for the tactical success in Iraq?

Is that what I said? That I give him all the credit? No that is not what I
said. I said he did a good job. He did a good job as Sec Def. not a field
commander which he isn't.

> The field commanders did their best with the situation they were handled
> and for the most part did a damn fine job of it.

An exceptional job.

> But they simply didn't have the resources to do the job right because Bush
> and Rummy knew they needed to do this on the cheap to sell it to the
> American public.

Have you read the recent comments by Tommy Franks? Apparently not. How about
Richard Meyers? Apparently not. I bet you have read the comments of Richard
Clarke and Wesley Clark however.....they seem to get the most press...

The facts are according to the commanders that actually developed and
implemented the strategy they got everything they asked for. Bar room
commanders like Clark and Clarke are only furthuring their political
futures. Why would you take the word of people who are politicizing the
issue?

I think I would put much more faith in the comments of retired Chief of
Staff (2001-2005) Richard Meyers than Wesley Clark as Meyers was Chief of
Staff and Wesley Clarke is a politician running for office.........
Received on Mon May 1 01:07:39 2006