Re: News Release

"Cliff" <whidbey.us@gmail.com> writes:
>"Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message

>> Please explain how the men can torture for months and no officer
>> recognizes. And after you explained that, please explain wether
>> the officers were incompetent or unconcerend or just undutiful,
>> if you don't want to accept they gave such orders or at least
>> admitted those crimes.

>> And please explain, why you're disagreeing with Major General
>> Antonio Taguba.

> I am not disagreeing I am agreeing with what he said:

>WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. Army general in charge of the
>investigation into abuse of some Iraqi prisoners told a Senate
>committee hearing Tuesday that "a failure of leadership" was to
>blame for the situation, and said there was no evidence the
>soldiers involved were acting under orders.

>Leadership failure does not mean that the leaders were complicit in
>the knowledge as I recall there were quite a few command level
>personel that were relieved of their duties. Note that this does
>not mean that they were guilty of allowing torture, they were
>guilty of what Taguba stated " a failure of leadership". There is a
>huge difference.

>Now may I ask you the same thing?
>Can please explain, why you're disagreeing with Major General Antonio
>Taguba?

He isn't. "A failure of leadership" can mean a lot of things;
including incompetence; an unwillingness to encourage troops to
follow lawful processes; or a (selective) disinterest in what the
grunts are doing. Volker asks "please explain wether the officers
were incompetent or unconcerend or just undutiful".

Everybody holding rank is; btw "command level". And a few
sacrificial goats don't set the situation right if many of those who
were complicit, either by direct action or a failure to act, go
unpunished. And they need to be seen to be punished.

And those not in command are also required to act in a way that
doesn't bring their service into disrepute.

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