Re: Wrt54G is a FW appliance?

Leythos <void@nowhere.lan> wrote:
>
>Just because someone comes out with ...

... more simplistic /non/-/sequiturs/ doesn't make it valid.

>You seem to be asking me, and all of us, to believe that something is a
>quality firewall without any certification - and I don't know many people
>that are willing to risk their business reputations on unproven solutions
>without independent confirmation.

Point in fact: OpenBSD is widely reputed to be the most secure
system commonly available.

  1) No system using it is certified by your "reputable"
     certification agency.

  2) OpenBSD itself is not certified by your "reputable"
     certification agency.

>From that we can draw two obvious conclusions:

  1) Lack of said certification means nothing.

  2) Your logic is invalid.

More verbosely, that means you *can* use ICSA certification to
suggest that a particular certified device is probably suitable;
but you *cannot* say with any validity that a non-certified
device is therefore unsuitable (which is what you have stated).

Regardless, none of this applies to the OP's original question,
which had *nothing* to do with some technical level of quality
for a firewall. He asked if Linksys equipment is any different
than the Watchguard devices marketed as "FW appliances". The
answer is that there is no difference. Several of the
Watchguard devices (which are not ICSA certified either) that
are marketed as "FW appliances" have virtually identical or
lesser capabilities than the Linksys device specified.

By *any reasonable* definition they are all firewalls. Whether
they are top of the line, fully featured, or the most secure, is
of course neither here nor there in regard to the OP's question.

What the OP has been falsely claiming, and you and at least one
other person seem to being supporting, is that because the
*high* *end* Watchguard devices are high quality the low end
devices are therefore acceptable by default; and then you do not
extend the same bypass to Cisco's low end devices apparently
because they use the Linksys brand name.

The fact is... the WRT54G is a better firewall than the
equivalent Watchguard devices, and comes at a significantly
lower cost too. They are *both* suitable for many or most SOHO
needs, and neither are suitable for any network that requires
the best firewall technology available.

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Floyd L. Davidson            <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
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