Re: The importance of IVs

On 28 Aug 2005 03:52:34 -0700, tomstdenis@gmail.com wrote:

>I love how you never really commit to facts of any sort.
>
>Is or is not the MM in windows not inferior to that in UNIX?

No, definitely not as far as I'm concerned.
And this argument is analogous to "Windows is better than UNIX".
For every person who says the memory manager in Windows is not
adequate, there will be another person who says that it's more than
adequate.

>I've recently installed Gentoo no less than 5 times in the last week.
>Gentoo [in case you don't know... who am I kidding, you don't] is a
>distro where you BUILD FROM SCRATCH the entire system.

Whoopie for you.
Now let's step out of Tom's world for a second, and jump into the real
world. How many PCs (either home or corporate) are running Gentoo?
Yeah...that's exactly what I thought.

>All five boxes are up and running properly. In fact one of the
>installs was based on a clone image and took me 7 minutes to complete.

So what? I can install DOS in under 4 minutes.
Just because you can install an operating system in a short period of
time does not mean your operating system is in any way good for
anything.

>Windows [without third party tools] cannot be installed in anything
>less than an hour. Then you have updates...

Nonsense. I do countless Windows installs and never have to wait more
than 30 minutes, tops. You can (if you know what you're doing)
integrate the updates into the main installation itself, so that once
the O/S is installed, that's it -- you're all done. The only reason
you're waiting an hour or more for a Windows install is if you're
trying to install it onto a machine on which you have no business
installing (i.e. trying to cram XP onto a 10-year old system with 32
MB of RAM and a hard drive that's barely faster than my floppy).

>> As I already said...don't blame stupidity/ignorance of the user on the
>> manufacturer.

>Why not? It's the manufacturer who wants the users to stop thinking.

That's your opinion.
I'm not aware of any incidents where Microsoft has ever said that
their operating systems are designed with the idea of keeping their
users from thinking.

>They want to give warm fuzzies to the maximum number of people so they
>come out and buy the shit software.

I suppose *nix is not "shit software" right?
I guess that's why *nix is being used on 95% of all the computers on
the planet.
Oh wait -- it's not.

>If you think there is a free market out there you are very confused.
>Ok, go buy me a laptop from a commercial source [e.g. dell, compaq,
>gateway] that includes no OS on the disk.

If you know what you're doing, you can buy any computer (laptop or
desktop) without any O/S on the disk. But with you being 23 and all,
I don't fault you for not knowing how the distribution channel works.

>That's for show. If you think I'm kidding ask about insurance on
>safety deposit boxes.

You can also buy insurance on your house to protect you against
earthquakes even if you live in a region that has never had an
earthquake in recorded history. The fact that someone is ready to
sell you some insurance for your safety deposit box hardly proves that
the bank is inherently insecure.

>But the whole point of XP is that you don't need experts to set it up.

You also don't need an "expert" to change the brakes on your car.
But if you don't know what you're doing, it's still a really really
good idea to consult someone who does.

>> Stupidity is not an excuse.
>> Neither is ignorance.

>Where are you living? Thinking is not the norm. People like very near
>sighted rewards [e.g. I click the button, the program loads weeee!].
>If people were really worried about long term issues like data
>compatibility or security they wouldn't use proprietary tools ... EVER.

Is it really any surprise that people want their lives to be made
easier? Why is that a bad thing? Why do you insist on thinking that
an operating system can only be classified as "good" or "secure" if
you have to be a Coke-bottle-glasses caliber of nerd to be able to
set it up?

The whole point of technology is to improve our lives and make
everyday things easier on us.
Received on Thu Sep 29 21:51:25 2005