Re: "Once We Squeeze All We Can Out of the United States, It Can Dry Up and Blow Away."

On 21 Sep 2005 20:22:00 -0700, tomstdenis@gmail.com wrote:

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>Jeffrey F. Bloss wrote:
>> Ari Silversteinn wrote:
>>
>> > Everything. Ever been to a NSA closed session?
>>
>> Oh puuuuuhlease... if you're going to continue to straw grab and rewrite the
>> scenarios to fit your arguments, we can end the whole debate right now.
>> Nobody's discussing proprietary, military level coding here Ari, except
>> maybe you.
>>
>> Do you wonder why that might be?
>
>(joining late so I'll just reply to you Jeff :-) ... )
>
>I always laugh at the "oh the NSA can crack like the shiznit!"...
>
>First off, the US government and it's contractors use things like
>Linux, GnuPG and yes ... even libtomcrypt on a regular basis. The idea
>that they're way beyond us is ludicrous. Military grade crypto == AES.
> Get over it.
>
>***THEY BUY THEIR MACHINES FROM DELL*** for crying out loud.
>
>The only secret the NSA holds tightly is how to milk a sweet spot for
>all it's worth. People are willing to pay for it because they are led
>to believe they do "important" things to make "your world safer".
>
>Tom

ahem .... and of course then there are those "rubber hoses", the best
cracker tool of them all.
Received on Thu Sep 29 21:56:43 2005